My first question is: Don't people rinse their toothbrushes in a stream of running water before they put toothpaste on them and stick them in their mouths? I know I do. And I prefer hot water, but some people don't, evidently.
Here at our house in Saint-Aignan, we don't have to worry about toilet spray contaminating our toothbrushes. Our toilet is in a separate room from our, and I use this alternate term advisedly, "bathing room." That's how most (but not all) French dwellings are set up.
In many ways, it's very practical. We have, in effect, what is called "a half-bath" in America, plus another bathroom, which is not really a full bathroom because there's no toilet in it. In fact, we don't have a term to describe such a room in current American English. I suggest "bathing-room."
In San Francisco, we had one full bath (with bathtub, sink, and toilet) and one three-quarters bath (with shower stall, sink, and toilet, but no bathtub) in our house. The bathing-room in our Saint-Aignan house doesn't qualify as a full bath or a three-quarters. The fixtures in it are a shower stall, a bathtub, and a sink. Oh, and a bidet. It really is a room for bathing.
Something about having the toilet in a separate room, the WC, is peculiarly European, I think (even though the half-bath is not uncommon in America). Sometimes the French WC is a room with just a toilet, and sometimes it includes a toilet and a sink, or lave-mains (a "hand-wash") — what somebody I know once described as a "boat sink" because of its diminutive size.
For French people this room has a name, but they
pretend it doesn't exist. We Americans admit that
it exists but we don't really have an everyday name for it.
pretend it doesn't exist. We Americans admit that
it exists but we don't really have an everyday name for it.
Having a separate room where you go to use the toilet means it is clear what you plan to do when you go in there. That might go against some of our more Victorian American conventions. It's not hypocritical enough. When you "go to the bathroom" in American English, in one sense it is clear that you intend to urinate (or worse!) but you don't have to actually 'fess up. Maybe you in fact just intend to freshen up, or wash your hands, or check to see if you have any lettuce stuck in your teeth. To powder your nose, as it were.
"Going to the bathroom" becomes a very confusing expression in our house in Saint-Aignan. "Are you going to the bathroom?" I might ask.
"Yes, I'm going to brush my teeth." Oh, that bathroom.
"Are you in the bathroom? I need to go... but I can wait."
"Yes, I'm in the bathroom, but go ahead. I'm just trimming my mustache." Or whatever. Not going to the bathroom, in other words.
How many of our American visitors have gone into our bathroom
only to find themselves unable to locate the fixture they
were looking for? Don't use this one. It's a bidet.
only to find themselves unable to locate the fixture they
were looking for? Don't use this one. It's a bidet.
I don't know what to call the water-closet in American English. "The toilet" sounds too direct, almost harsh, too functional. "The half-bath" sounds like the description in a real-estate brochure. "The loo" sounds too twee. "The throne room" is the best I've come up with. We are in château country, after all.
We could just pretend it doesn't exist. I think French people do that in polite society. For example, they always close the door, even when the room is unoccupied. Years ago, I used to be invited regularly to Sunday dinners at the apartment of a French woman in Paris. After apéritifs, wine, and coffee, I invariably had to go to "the bathroom." When I had flushed the toilet and left the room, I left the door open just a crack. It's an old habit; seeing the door slightly ajar lets the next person know that the room is not occupied.
The hostess would listen carefully to determine whether I had closed that door all the way. After a minute or two, she would quietly get up from her chair, in the middle of whatever conversation we all were having or whatever TV program we were watching, and go close it. She couldn't stand it. You could hear it click closed when she walked back there. She didn't use the room; she just shut the door. And I would always think, damn, I again forgot to close the door all the way. It had to be tightly closed, always. Who know what horrible germs or smells might have escaped into the house otherwise.
When I went to take a picture of the bidet, Callie came to see what
I was up to. She doesn't really understand what a bidet is for either.
I was up to. She doesn't really understand what a bidet is for either.
The other thing that makes me believe that French people would like to pretend the WC doesn't exist is that in calculating the square footage (well, meterage) of your apartment or house, you are not allowed to include the throne room. I think you can include the salle de bains, however, and the kitchen. The WC has its own special status. It is invisible; technically, it doesn't exist. It's not part of the surface habitable, the living space.
Some also say it is just not proper to ask to use the bathroom (let's be clear — d'aller aux toilettes) at someone else's house when you are, say, invited to dinner. You just have to hold it. On prend ses dispositions to avoid such awkward situations. I've heard other French people poo-poo the whole bathroom interdiction thing, however.
Why is it plural, anyway? You say les toilettes. La toilette is something else entirely. And les WC or les vécés. Or les waters, also spelled les vatères. Les gogues. J'en passe et des meilleures.
An Englishwoman we know said an Englishman we also know might have a hard time selling his house in France to French buyers because in remodeling it he put the toilet in the same room with the shower, tub, and sink. French people wouldn't like that. It would seem strange. It's not what they are used to. It's more English-style.
In fact, more and more often you see that configuration in French dwellings. All the way back in the 1970s, one suburban Paris apartment I lived in had that bathroom configuration. The fixtures had obviously been installed as a kind of afterthought, in a very small (should I say wee?) space. A closet. Whatever. It worked for me.
And all along I thought the English went to the loo, which is the anglicized pronounciation of les lieux, meaning that unnamed place where the facilities are located. The toilet — that's the polite British term, I've been led to believe. No restrooms over there.
"Le petit endroit." It's hilarious! You can also say: Où le roi va seul...or sans suite!
ReplyDeleteJ'aurais dû ajouter qu'avoir les WC dans une pièce séparée, c'est bien commode!
ReplyDeleteI wonder if not counting the toilet room in square footage comes from a time, not that long ago, when some dwellings didn't have a toilet room at all. I visited someone in an apartment in 1967 that had barely-running water in the kitchen and a "squatty-potty" out in the hall under the stairwell.
ReplyDeleteAnd French friends live in a lovely Provencal farmhouse with an all-in-one bathroom that was installed in the '70s.
Ken,
ReplyDeleteI should send this to your email account but I don't seem to have it. Gloria and I will be in Paris from the 19th to the 30th of December. Any chance we could get together with you (or you and Walt) for lunch or dinner? We have opera tickets for Christmas Eve and will be spending time with our son and his wife, but our time is really fluid. Our address is 5 Avenue Mac-Mahon, Paris 17. We have a phone but I should probably not publish it here. Hope we can meet you.
Dennis Martin
Don't start this conversation in the UK - it's never-ending since (of course) we can't avoid using it as a marker of social placement. All the words, from toilet to lavatory to wash/bath/restroom, are euphemisms, of course, but people would go to extraordinary lengths to euphemise still further, such as "Let me show you the geography of the house", or "I wonder if I might just....?" with a raised eyebrow. "Loo" is probably now the least encumbered with social nuance in the UK.
ReplyDeleteI was at our local farmer's market this summer and I heard one man say to his wife/friend??? "I'll be right back....I have to go to the S-H-I-T-T-E-R!! Too direct perhaps?? GROSS! I wanted to tell him.....thanks for the visual.
ReplyDeleteSuddenly I no longer wanted to shop for food.
Victoria, Bellingham,WA
Our first house in San Francisco has a similar plumbing arrangement, with the toilet in a tiny little room of its own next door to the bathroom, which held a tab and sink. Two of the bedrooms also had their own sinks, which seemed strange at first, but turned out to be very convenient. It's interesting to see the same separation of, um, church and state(?) being repeated in the McMansions that seem to be popping up all over the place. The master bath invariably has a separate little toilet closet so that two people can use the facilities without compromising their privacy (or so the realtors tell us).
ReplyDeleteThe bidet was one of the first things I removed when I moved into my new place. You do find them a lot at hotels, but a lot of people remove them to make their salles-de-bain more roomy
ReplyDeleteQuite an interesting post.
It's also le petit coin, or là où tu ne peux pas aller à ma place ;)
Claude de Vieux, c'est mieux !!!
"Separation of church and state".... love it!
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