tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post6440453804778721276..comments2024-03-28T15:15:32.175+01:00Comments on Living the life in Saint-Aignan: SkiesKen Broadhursthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-74521621623018139732019-09-19T01:57:21.269+02:002019-09-19T01:57:21.269+02:00Yes, I know it as "red sky at night, sailor&#...Yes, I know it as "red sky at night, sailor's delight, et cetera." If the sky is red at night, the night and next day will, generally, be fair. Red sky at morning presages weather change. Those are major points for people who work on the water.Emmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17365143273404503659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-87589791568881287492019-09-18T19:02:37.487+02:002019-09-18T19:02:37.487+02:00This is interesting chm! I was taught to always s...This is interesting chm! I was taught to always start with "vous" when speaking with someone, saving tu for a few close friends. But then of course, that was decades ago.Diogenesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-31162375062983434972019-09-18T17:41:15.383+02:002019-09-18T17:41:15.383+02:00My English husband says that 'Yes, the Red sky...My English husband says that 'Yes, the Red sky at morning, ... take warning is used in the UK as well, although 'shepherds' is far more common. He's heard the sailors variant but not very often. elgeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16019214788976612822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-66859430448044363082019-09-18T14:51:42.185+02:002019-09-18T14:51:42.185+02:00As I said before, I should have "Gougeuled&qu...As I said before, I should have "Gougeuled" Notre père before writing a comment. Nowadays, everyboby says tu to everybody and anybody, thus losing that <i>intimité</i> proper to tu. In the old days, saying tu to somebody you didn't know was considered as an insult and a mark of contempt. <i>La familiarité engendre le mépris.</i> Vous is a mark of respect that is obsolete these days! If that's the way you want it, be my guest -:)<br />I don't think saying tu to God, will bring more sheep to the Catholic cult!chmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17765675930520613520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-75498220077946478592019-09-18T12:12:24.655+02:002019-09-18T12:12:24.655+02:00The full expression as I learned it is "Red s...The full expression as I learned it is "Red sky at night, sailors delight. Red sky at morning, sailor(s) take warning." Tim, is that part of your shepherd version of the saying?Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-50303958487840237672019-09-18T11:55:41.863+02:002019-09-18T11:55:41.863+02:00I got that example, Notre Père qui es aux cieux, f...I got that example, <i>Notre Père qui es aux cieux</i>, from your favorite dictionary, the CNRTL. It surprised me, but maybe Catholic habits having to do with saying <i>tu</i> or <i>vous</i> have changed over the past 100 years! Not being Catholic, or really Protestant either, I rely on others for these details... And in English, Our Father who art in Heaven, well that's the <i>tu</i> form of the verb. Thou art, you are...Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-23593293441123116952019-09-18T10:44:40.309+02:002019-09-18T10:44:40.309+02:00Diogenes.... merci! That gave me a good giggle!Diogenes.... merci! That gave me a good giggle!Le Pré de la Forgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396822372095610004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-46869599613459742922019-09-18T10:21:41.653+02:002019-09-18T10:21:41.653+02:00David, lolDavid, lolchmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17765675930520613520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-81904940159152313272019-09-18T10:19:57.295+02:002019-09-18T10:19:57.295+02:00I was told that red skies were predicting windy we...I was told that red skies were predicting windy weather ahead, and that was good news for sailors before the advent of steam and other fuels. <br /><br />Do sheep have sails? Do geese see god?chmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17765675930520613520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-38077378299135336642019-09-18T10:19:26.343+02:002019-09-18T10:19:26.343+02:00As a former Catholic, I know that, in French, you ...As a former Catholic, I know that, in French, you use the second person of the plural when you a.ddress God, so it should be <i>... qui êtes</i> snd not <i>...qui es</i>.<br />This bring said, I have no idea what is the rule if any, for French-speaking persons of other Christian cults<br /><i>Ciel</i> is an interesting word with two plurals. A regular one, <i>ciels</i>, mostly used in art (and photography), and an irregular one, <i>cieux</i>, which has nothing to do with the sky, but is that hypothetical place in the universe where any deity, take your pick, lives and tries to mess up with us poor humans!chmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17765675930520613520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-84078358185513345362019-09-18T10:02:04.604+02:002019-09-18T10:02:04.604+02:00I should have specified the four-legged kind.I should have specified the four-legged kind.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-51560738483154846672019-09-18T09:36:05.966+02:002019-09-18T09:36:05.966+02:00Ken I think there are way more than 5 million shee...Ken I think there are way more than 5 million sheep in the US; look at the current state of affairs.Diogenesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-46781272609013082062019-09-18T09:32:40.784+02:002019-09-18T09:32:40.784+02:00Maybe "blue skies" means day after day o...Maybe "blue skies" means day after day of those skies? <br /><br />My grandmother used to say "red sky at night sailor's delight"...and other memorable thoughts/phrases like: "the opulence of the waiting room is inversely proportional to the stability of the firm." She liked Dorothy Parker. But I digress...<br /><br />Who knew the moon was ovoid? That is such a great picture of it!Diogenesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-34892826532181941752019-09-18T09:05:25.705+02:002019-09-18T09:05:25.705+02:00I think we just don't have very many shepherds...I think we just don't have very many shepherds in the U.S. I just read that there are about 5 million sheep in the U.S. compared to more than 20 million in the U.K.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-63117342404307109082019-09-18T08:37:03.646+02:002019-09-18T08:37:03.646+02:00And our Earth ain't round either.... 'tis ...And our Earth ain't round either.... 'tis an "oblate spheroid"....<br />Nice moon piccy and sunset....<br />"Red sky at night, sailors delight."..... to me it should be "Red sky at night, shepherds delight."<br />With the same question mark over Shepherds.... is it "shepherds (take) delight"... or single vs plural possessive... I have always read it and argued for "shepherds" because a red sky covers a very large area so all the shepherds that see it take delight. My presumption is that it means the weather is "set fair".... so the same would apply to sailors.<br />Le Pré de la Forgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396822372095610004noreply@blogger.com