tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post4958672259032822036..comments2024-03-28T05:24:43.762+01:00Comments on Living the life in Saint-Aignan: Sticker shock, sort ofKen Broadhursthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-43770457239750886992015-04-23T09:37:49.807+02:002015-04-23T09:37:49.807+02:00The people at the Invicta shop were quite adamant ...The people at the Invicta shop were quite adamant that we need a 6 to 8 kw stove for our space. But they haven't seen the space. The Kazan is a 9 kw stove. By the way, we almost never close our interior doors. We learned early on with the cat that he is perfectly capable of opening a door when he wants to, even if the door opens into the room he is trying to get out of. I don't know how he does it.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-59281235230948899372015-04-23T08:16:22.165+02:002015-04-23T08:16:22.165+02:00Ken, I was thinking this morning about the power o...Ken, I was thinking this morning about the power output of the new stove...<br />surely it is a good thing to have....<br />hot air rises and you can leave doors open in winter, bank the fire up of an evening and use far less oil central heating...<br />Callie will enjoy open doors, too... all BCs love to be able to roam unhindered!!<br />Bertie, of course, being a cat.... passes through doors and walls without effort...<br />unless a staff member is present... then squealing and a'wailing is used to make us do our "job"!!<br />TimLe Pré de la Forgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396822372095610004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-34663856719444835212015-04-22T21:01:57.526+02:002015-04-22T21:01:57.526+02:00As you are thinking down the same line as me... an...As you are thinking down the same line as me... and your stainless pipe won't have changed in nine years...<br />the blurb with ours reckoned 20 as a guarantee... so you've eleven or more years use out of the existing.<br />Buy one and get it professionally fitted... especially with all that slow burning vine timber to use up....<br />there are only so many corkscrews that people can use!!<br />TimLe Pré de la Forgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396822372095610004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-23459733115486833632015-04-22T18:22:50.767+02:002015-04-22T18:22:50.767+02:00I gave up predicting exchange rates years ago. Tha...I gave up predicting exchange rates years ago. That said, predictions among so-called experts are for the euro to keep falling, gradually, against the dollar. Je ne demande pas mieux. I hope the rate will be in your favor in September.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-72821707421489461822015-04-22T18:21:04.879+02:002015-04-22T18:21:04.879+02:00The new stove, according to the specialists chez I...The new stove, according to the specialists chez Invicta, is actually too hot for our space. I don't believe it. But then the one we have, which is less hot, has always been perfectly satisfactory. One factor is: we have hundreds of vine stumps -- maybe a winter's worth -- that are very difficult to cut to length for the current stove but that would fit fine in the newer model. Maybe just that is reason enough to change stoves.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-61132766449551195072015-04-22T18:07:26.952+02:002015-04-22T18:07:26.952+02:00I'm not sure the new and improved model is alw...I'm not sure the new and improved model is always really improved. The tax issues benefits are interesting.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-87437703647539599862015-04-22T15:27:43.778+02:002015-04-22T15:27:43.778+02:00I'd be tempted to put it all off, but wait a s...I'd be tempted to put it all off, but wait a second- the new stove must put out more heat, right? In that case I would buy it now for future warmth. I like the tax ideas for helping the artisans.Evelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17824964122794535252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-44446722269663084312015-04-22T14:39:14.620+02:002015-04-22T14:39:14.620+02:00Ken, how long will the euro-dollar ratio be in you...Ken, how long will the euro-dollar ratio be in your favor? I wish we were there now to take advantage of the low euro. Who knows where the euro will be come September?Carolynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-78741580567016123462015-04-22T13:58:13.652+02:002015-04-22T13:58:13.652+02:00I'm not sure the new and improved model is alw...I'm not sure the new and improved model is always really improved. The tax issues benefits are interesting.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-1280932408533437042015-04-22T13:55:31.965+02:002015-04-22T13:55:31.965+02:00I hope to get an answer from Haricot Vert this wee...I hope to get an answer from Haricot Vert this week or next. As for the stove's warranty, I think it would be the same no matter if we bought, a contractor bought it for us and installed it, or the Invicta people installed it.<br /><br />The Invicta people invoke insurance and liability reasons for their policy of ripping out the "old" chimney sleeve and insulation before installing the new stove. In other words, they want the work -- and our money.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-35274527230790721472015-04-22T13:47:39.754+02:002015-04-22T13:47:39.754+02:00Wow. I guess wood stoves are luxury items over the...Wow. I guess wood stoves are luxury items over there. We could get a perfectly serviceable one at a brico store for $500 or $600. And then the 30% tax credit!Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-13189560259126948852015-04-22T13:25:53.596+02:002015-04-22T13:25:53.596+02:00Cast iron wood-burning stoves are incredibly expen...Cast iron wood-burning stoves are incredibly expensive here in the States-- and the huge price doesn't include installation. You can easily pay $2500 or $3000 just for the stove.Seine Judeet (Judith)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07407353544376132484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-10510799063042948372015-04-22T13:10:15.575+02:002015-04-22T13:10:15.575+02:00Is this outfit just like restaurants where they ar...Is this outfit just like restaurants where they are supposed to have the best profit margin on wine, when a glass is the price of a bottle?<br /><br />In your case, is the warranty conditional on their installing the stove and all the trimmings?<br /><br />Before committing myself, I would check first if the stainless sleeve — and the insulation — has really to be changed after only 9 years of use! It seems to me like some kind of a rip-off. And then, as Tim suggests, I'd check with the plumber [or M. Harry Cover!] whether he can install the stove or even, if it is absolutely necessary, change the sleeve and the insulation for a better price. Good luck with this. [LOL, just saw your comment on M.Harry Cover!]<br /><br />As a last option, you still have the wait-and-see!chmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17765675930520613520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-20669319112569158612015-04-22T12:53:04.886+02:002015-04-22T12:53:04.886+02:00I like the look of the model you are looking at, b...I like the look of the model you are looking at, but if you don't buy it now, in a year or two you can be sure there will be a new improved model for about the same price. Very interesting about the tax concessions and the subsidy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-73145428326938257142015-04-22T10:27:48.794+02:002015-04-22T10:27:48.794+02:00The stovepipe for the two stoves is the same. The ...The stovepipe for the two stoves is the same. The chimney is lined with stainless steel. I just wrote to a man who has done roofing work and chimney sweeping for us to see if he would be able to put in a new stove this summer. I hope he says yes.Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-12337222665414831512015-04-22T09:05:47.958+02:002015-04-22T09:05:47.958+02:00The curves of the "old" stove fit the lo...The curves of the "old" stove fit the lovely design of your fireplace nicely....<br />the new one echoes the line of the bricks...<br />it is a nice, crisp, modern design that isn't going to look dated in ten years!<br />For a proper stove like either of the above... <br />I would reckon on getting fifteen to twenty years life from them.<br />And, at 330€ for five stère of the 33cm, you are only 35€ up on what we paid for the last lot!<br />That's an awful lot of 33cm logs to get you to 2500€... like well over 60 years deliveries!!<br />And by the time I am 120 years old, I want an all pellet or plaquet system that auto-loads!!<br /><br />Unless I win the Euromillions and can afford someone to do it all for us!!<br /><br />There is a third option you haven't mentioned...<br />your local plombier[s]... ours fit and install log fires... <br />in fact we are waiting for a guestimate at the moment....<br />They could purchase your new one for you...<br /><br />One thing you didn't mention is the flue diameter...<br />is your old one the same as your new one?<br />And what is your current chimney lined with for the old one?<br />If the new one is a bigger diameter you will need new sleeving...<br />if it is smaller, which I doubt... small into large doesn't draw as well...<br />our big central heating boiler is small into large....<br />to "future-proof" it... but it is a forced airflow and that doesn't matter.<br /><br />And I agree with Jean on the old one.... and a tube of lamp-black would make it look even newer!<br />And if you asked half its original price, I reckon you'd get that.<br /><br />Le Pré de la Forgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396822372095610004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-44521060105355401212015-04-22T08:58:08.734+02:002015-04-22T08:58:08.734+02:00Yes, we could try. I have no idea what we could ge...Yes, we could try. I have no idea what we could get for it. But I really don't relish the idea of running ads and taking telephone calls. The woman at Invicta said "Don't let anybody into your house to see what you have and how you live! Do it all by posting and sending photos..."Ken Broadhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04430899802705818716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18071407.post-8598132726256803522015-04-22T07:47:23.915+02:002015-04-22T07:47:23.915+02:00Could you sell the old stove and get some money ba...Could you sell the old stove and get some money back that way? It looks like it's in good condition.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726164724131916224noreply@blogger.com